• Shareware CD-Rom / Door Installation

    From paulie420@77:1/158 to All on Thu Nov 5 14:42:38 2020
    I found a few really cool old BBS CD-Roms in a closet...

    If I remember correctly, these CDs have both the files.bbs data and a stand-alone 'Door App' that could act as a door file downloads section.

    These are particularly cool discs- not just shareware, IMO, and... it might not be terrible to offer the 'door' to the users just for nostalgia. What do you think, more hassle than worth or....? Any quick tips for installing a door game on RASPBERRY PI hardware? As far as I'd guess, I'd setup like any other Door GAME - and I think with a Pi people are currently using DOSEMU2, and I've heard of some folks using [gasp] DOSBox. Am I correct here? [Don't need a full writeup... I can run that data down myself.]

    Lastly, creating a Mystic file group with the title of the CD-Rom might be a decent way to serve up the files too, no? I have never imported files.bbs with Mystic, I'm heading to the wiki now but... any suggestions or tips before I dive into importing 3 full CD-Roms worth of data with Mystic using files.bbs?

    I should just copy the data to a hard disk, correct? Data is cheap - heck I don't even think I have 3 drives available, let alone powering them with the Pi hardware setup.

    Any other tips or suggestions that I'm missing? Do ya'll remember Forbidden Subjects? :P



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  • From Netsurge@77:1/100 to paulie420 on Thu Nov 5 19:46:52 2020
    These are particularly cool discs- not just shareware, IMO, and... it might notbe terrible to offer the 'door' to the users just for
    nostalgia. What do youthink, more hassle than worth or....? Any quick
    tips for installing a door gameon RASPBERRY PI hardware? As far as I'd guess, I'd setup like any other DoorGAME - and I think with a Pi people are currently using DOSEMU2, and I've heardof some folks using [gasp] DOSBox. Am I correct here? [Don't need a fullwriteup... I can run that data down myself.]

    Sharing anything BBS related is alway a great idea. This is a dying hobby so preserving it's history is a must.

    As for running it on a Pi: My Pi-fu might not be as good as others but I don't think you can run dosemu on a Pi without using something like ExaGear.
    .

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  • From g00r00@77:1/138 to paulie420 on Thu Nov 5 20:53:20 2020
    Lastly, creating a Mystic file group with the title of the CD-Rom might
    be a decent way to serve up the files too, no? I have never imported files.bbs with Mystic, I'm heading to the wiki now but... any
    suggestions or tips before I dive into importing 3 full CD-Roms worth of data with Mystic using files.bbs?

    If they come with a filebone style list of directories then you can import with that.

    If the files are mostly common archive format with .DIZ files then you can just do a mass upload and Mystic will add all of them and their descriptions.

    You can also import FILES.BBS too but its not very automated.

    What does the directory structure of the CDROM look like?

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  • From paulie420@77:1/158 to g00r00 on Fri Nov 6 09:52:02 2020
    files.bbs with Mystic, I'm heading to the wiki now but... any suggestions or tips before I dive into importing 3 full CD-Roms worth data with Mystic using files.bbs?

    If they come with a filebone style list of directories then you can
    import withthat.

    If the files are mostly common archive format with .DIZ files then you
    can justdo a mass upload and Mystic will add all of them and their descriptions.

    You can also import FILES.BBS too but its not very automated.

    What does the directory structure of the CDROM look like?

    Thanks, g00r00:

    They both have a '00index' folder and the files are separated by '/group' followed by '/area'. Inside the 00index folders are 'allfiles.bbs', 'allfilex.bbs', 'dirinfo.rom', 'dirstats.rom' and 'files.xxx' for each individual directory....

    I think the .dat files are for that MEGADOOR Door I was talking about; think the .dat files 0cddir.dat ocdindex.dat 0cdsort.day are for it...

    For example, there is a HACKING--> WORDLIST file area; its files are located @ /hacking/wordlsts and contain all the .ZIPs and a lone files.bbs in each directory where ZIPs are located. :P

    Hope thats the all the info you asked about.



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  • From g00r00@77:1/138 to paulie420 on Fri Nov 6 17:17:58 2020
    They both have a '00index' folder and the files are separated by
    '/group' followed by '/area'. Inside the 00index folders are 'allfiles.bbs', 'allfilex.bbs', 'dirinfo.rom', 'dirstats.rom' and 'files.xxx' for each individual directory....

    Hope thats the all the info you asked about.

    Thanks.

    I am thinking maybe I can find some old .ISO files of some of those CD-ROMs and see if I can figure out a good way to import them.

    The descriptions will import file, really the challenge is how to create the file bases. I think you can do that if you make a "filebone.na" format file so that was really what I was hoping was on the CD-ROMs.

    Another way would be to scan the directories and create a file base for each directory, but I don't know how reliable that would be - it would require CD-ROMs to be structured similarly with their directories.

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  • From paulie420@77:1/158 to g00r00 on Sat Nov 7 23:55:28 2020
    I am thinking maybe I can find some old .ISO files of some of those CD-ROMs andsee if I can figure out a good way to import them.

    I can give you those details/files if you need them, however....

    The descriptions will import file, really the challenge is how to create thefile bases. I think you can do that if you make a "filebone.na"
    format file sothat was really what I was hoping was on the CD-ROMs.

    Another way would be to scan the directories and create a file base for eachdirectory, but I don't know how reliable that would be - it would requireCD-ROMs to be structured similarly with their directories.

    So it was easy enough... I just pulled up two terminals, added the directories in Mystic by hand and copied the files over...

    I don't need to explain how, as I'm sure YOU know but I just moved over the best formatted files.bbs type files and the import went fine. As far as the FORBIDDEN SUBJECTS ROMs, the descriptions only had one line...

    I even got a bunch of adult discs over, with long file descriptions...

    ONE disc, Trixxsters DemoScene DUMP 2004, was particularly hard - the dang files.bbs was a PCBoard version, formatted all sorts of stupid. (Filenames were a few characters from the left - and some had more spaces than others so I couldn't just erase X columns from the documents. SOOOO, I had to edit by hand... for some 2500 files. Now thats dedication to the archive process... on a technology that only us nuts love, and no one will probably ever look at.
    Oh well - BACKUP Paulie, cause you better keep that FOREVER. :P

    Thanks g00r00.



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  • From g00r00@77:1/138 to paulie420 on Sun Nov 8 10:36:38 2020
    ONE disc, Trixxsters DemoScene DUMP 2004, was particularly hard - the
    dang files.bbs was a PCBoard version, formatted all sorts of stupid. (Filenames were a few characters from the left - and some had more
    spaces than others so I couldn't just erase X columns from the
    documents. SOOOO, I had to edit by hand... for some 2500 files. Now

    Mystic's files.bbs importer is configurable and it can also import PCBoard file listings. I don't know if it would have worked on that file list it sounds like it might have been all garbled anyway, but it is possible to define things like when the filename and description start, etc.

    I had to do it that way because there are several formats of FILES.BBS too.

    I've made a note in my TODO list to try to investigate ways that maybe I could make it easier to import things like that.

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  • From paulie420@77:1/158 to g00r00 on Sun Nov 8 11:43:52 2020
    On 08 Nov 2020, g00r00 said the following...

    Mystic's files.bbs importer is configurable and it can also import
    PCBoard filelistings. I don't know if it would have worked on that file list it soundslike it might have been all garbled anyway, but it is possible to define thingslike when the filename and description start, etc.

    Yea, all the other CD-ROMs were simple enough, I just made a specific .ini and they imported no problem and very nicely. I also liked that I could add a different 'uploader' to match the CD-ROM title; looked nice in the listings...

    I had to do it that way because there are several formats of FILES.BBS too.

    I've made a note in my TODO list to try to investigate ways that maybe I couldmake it easier to import things like that.

    I also think the one 'Trixxsters DemoScene DUMP' was just garbled/messed up... it was just weird because it was across all the directories, so; it seemed like it was what the creater MADE; not that they were just errors/after the fact.

    I can post a snippet so you can see, or I can upload the entire files to you. They were actually 00INDEX.TXT files:

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    FCDEMOEX.ZIP 10019 930725 Data file extractor for Future Crew demos


    GDE40.ZIP 67364 960520
    .presents.

    Genetic Dreams TextEditor
    Version 4.0 32bit
    done by Pussyrider/ESC
    spreaded 16th of may 1996

    GUSCTHUG.ZIP 45338 940601
    HEIGHT.ZIP 734437 940726
    MC3TRIX.ZIP 5024 950723
    PARTICLE.ZIP 408570 960718 The Particle System - by Aaron Hilton
    A little production done over the
    weekend. Play with things like a
    Convection map, Fire Cracker mode,
    Linear Interpolated Particle firing,
    Gravity, and Bounce modes for the
    sides of the screen. (c) 1995

    SCROLLY1.ZIP 23905 950714
    SECRET12.ZIP 15803 941009 _ _ ___ _ _ _ _ ___
    / |/ || | | || | /(__ /| | ) )
    / || � | _| || |( ) | | / /_
    /_/|/_||__||__/ |_ \__/ |_/____|
    presents
    Real Secret Part In 'Show'

    (Requires: original SHOW.EXE)

    STSOU31.ZIP 529039 970116 Atari-St
    Atari-St SoundChip Emulator v3.12
    (December 1996)
    on PC-compatible (DOS & WINDOWS)
    (Works on ALL SoundCards !)
    By Arnaud Carre.(Leonard/OXYGENE)
    (STSOUND.ZIP)

    STSOUND.ZIP 428121 960610 STSOUND.ZIP
    on PC-compatible.
    YM2149 Soundchip Emulator v3.02
    By Arnaud Carr�.(Leonard/OXYGENE).
    Included 6'00 hour of ATARI-ST famous
    tunes !!! (124 Musics !)
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